Comments on: Is there a center fire rifle that kicks less than a .410 shotgun?

By: huntingfishing

huntingfishing — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:14:59 +0000

instead of getting a new gun, you can buy a winchester limbsaver recoil pad to put on the .410, bought one at walmart the other day for a .308 and it kicks hardly at all!!!
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By: ishootbirds2

ishootbirds2 — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:01:59 +0000

In my opinion the SKS in 7.62x39mm is the lightest recoiling rifle I’ve ever fired. an additional AK74 style muzzle brake further helps reduces felt recoil. Its legal for deer in most states and similar to the 30-30 Winchester in terms of power and range.
the SKS is a semiautomatic centerfire gas operated rifle, 20" bbl 10rd fixed magazine. you can swap that for a 5rd magazine to comply with hunting regulations if needed.
uses a font hooded post sight and rear leaf sight marked in meters, per 100 meters from 0 to 1000. effective range 300 meters. Any random SKS can hit a 8.5×11 sheet of paper at 100 yards. Many come with a folding bayonet (which can be removed). Roughly $250 to $300. Do not buy any Yugo SKS rifle. There are around 10 makers of the SKS- Russian, Romanian, Albanian, Norinco (PRC), Vietnamese (rare), Yugo, just to name a few.

the smallest caliber ok for deer in the US (don’t know which state) is 22-250.
the 22-250 is like the .223 Remington but with a slightly larger powder charge and a heavier bullet. results in a bit more muzzle energy. There are many rifle in 22-250
Next up is .243 Winchester, which fires a 6mm bullet with low recoil. popular for varmint and deer.

generally gas operated rifles will recoil the least and bolt action, lever action or single shots in .30-30, 22-250, and 243 will recoil a bit more.
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By: joda_68

joda_68 — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:28:59 +0000

Lots of good suggestions, but I don't like the smaller bullet ideas, a crippled animal can make a non hunter out of your daughter faster than anything. My suggestion would be to get an old 30-30, put a 4x scope on it, and limit her shots to 100 yards until she gets some experience under her belt. If you can find a cheap old well used one, cut the stock down to fit her, that coupled with the heavier weight of the rifle will do more to alleviate the kick than anything. 1 more thing, if she has become at all recoil sensitive shooting the .410, start over with a .22 and have her practice until the flinch goes away.
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By: Shogun

Shogun — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:42:59 +0000

Marty,

What you’re not addressing is that the lighter the weapon and straighter the stock the more the recoil. Those youth models look just right for a kid, but they do actually kick more than a full size shotgun. If you can afford one, a semi-auto .410 is pretty cool because it uses alot of its recoil to operate the mechanism. You also might try a padded shooters jacket. As for center fire rifle for deer that kicks less, no such animal, unless your can use an AR15A2 where you hunt.
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By: pagamenews

pagamenews — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:23:59 +0000

I am not surprised at all. The reason she can’t handle the Rossi is because of its light weight. A heavy gun produces far less felt recoil.

I have a 224 Weatherby Magnum that has very little recoil. I would suggest simply buying her a decent bolt action rifle in a varmint class caliber and seeing how she does with that. I am thinking a Ruger M77 in 220 Swift would be adequate to bring down a deer and offer very little in the way of felt recoil.

Be sure to check your state game laws to make sure they do not have a minimum caliber requirement. But, if she was using a 410 slug for deer, I am guessing that there isn’t such a law in your state.
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By: Nick

Nick — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:44:59 +0000

.243 Win.
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By: Bret C

Bret C — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:32:59 +0000

I think the kick from that gun is much different than any other shotgun when teamed with a slug. The gun is very light and seems to have more of a snap. You may be surprised, but a 12 ga. and a recoil pad "feels" much different. I

I would take her out and shoot some clay pigeons or something that allows for light loads. She can graduate to slugs in a fairly short amount of time. This is only if she is strong enough to properly hold and aim.

Some lever action .44 mags have a different feeling recoil that some people seem to prefer as well.
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By: joed

joed — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:45:59 +0000

.357 magnum in a lever action rifle, a 7.63×39, a .243 Win.

Remington offers their Managed Recoil line of ammunition which delivers 50% less recoil than standard loads. It’s available in several calibers and shot gun slug loads. http://www.remington.com
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By: mack_9

mack_9 — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:01:59 +0000

It may not be legal for deer hunting, but a .223 has less recoil. My 7 year old nephew shoots my son's AR-15 without a problem. My oldest son was shooting at deer when he was 9 with a .243 Win. A .30-30 would be light on recoil too. How old is she? Is she holding it correctly? Tight against the shoulder, cheek down against the stock, and wearing good hearing protection?
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By: Justin

Justin — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:38:59 +0000

There are a lot of things you can do here. You could get a 243 or even a 270 but in a semi auto. That alone will cut down the recoil because a lot of the gasses are used in making the action work instead of going into the gun as recoil. You could also put on a muzzle break and a recoil pad. That should make it really soft shooting. Good luck
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